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Post by thecrystalmaiden on Aug 22, 2005 13:35:13 GMT -5
Hey everyone!
I wrote a similar post on the general board called "How I 'Awakened'" which should really have been under this topic, because the "awakening" I had was really my shift to the crystalline vibration. If you want to know the story of what happened, go to the general board and read that topic.
However, I really just want to address the differences between the indigo and the crystal vibration. When you're indigo, nothing annoys you more than something that's unfair. We all know how it is - it's that uncontrolable urge to stand up and say "Hey, that's not right!" no matter where we are or who we're with. When other people don't understand or just don't care, it's incredibly frustrating because of how powerfully indigos feel that urge to right what's wrong, and when we attempt to suppress it, we feel so horrible that it becomes an impossibility. Much more importantly, however, when you're indigo you're always seeking the truth, and you have the confidence to know that you can figure it out on your own. You look high and low, have hours of philisophical chat with whoever can stand to talk to you about it, and read every bit of material you can that may lead to the right path. I'm sure you've all noticed this - when a new idea arises that is controversial and unsupported by the public, we have a tendency to jump on it and hold it under a microscope until we agree or disagree for ourselves, and then make sure to tell everyone about it, lol. =)
Crystal, however, is a bit different. Let me explain - the key point to being on the crystalline vibration is that you can feel God. It's no longer a question in your mind and you're no longer searching for "truth" - you already know it. God is as real to you and as present as your family or best friend, you can feel his love and wisdom at any moment in your heart. Whereas indigos love philisophical discussions, I've found as a crystal that they get tiring because it's no longer a game of "maybe/what if" but rather a situation where one person knows the ultimate truth and the other is just arguing against it. Also, arguments in and of themselves are no longer very tolerable because the negativity in the situation is very frustrating and upsetting and it drains a lot of energy.
Where indigos get that overpowering urge to speak out when they see something wrong, crystals get the same urge when they see someone in pain. As an indigo I was always fighting for what's fair, what's right, what's honest - as a crystal I still care about those things a lot, but I find that it has even more of an emotional response with me when someone I know (or don't know) is having a bad day, in need of help, etc. I literally can't live with myself if I don't help out, and it fills me with so much joy when I do. As an indigo I found that I was repelled by people who were dishonest and selfish; now I find myself not only repelled by those people, but also repelled (if not quite as strongly) by people who are hardcore against God in all ways and close minded about everything. As indigo it seemed that I had somewhat of a tolerance for it - as crystal I don't. I've also found that as crystal nothing is personal - I dislike what a person does, not the actual person themselves. Like if someone is mean to me, I don't therefore hate them, but I don't like their actions at all.
Being crystal is really about having that connection with God. If you feel some of the things that I've listed yet you still can't feel God on the inside (and believe me, you know if you can), then you're probably in the process of shifting. It can take seconds or it can take months, but it's really based on personal experience and your outlook. The better the person you try to be, the sooner you shift, I really think this is true.
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Post by ne ws oci e ty on Aug 22, 2005 18:13:26 GMT -5
thanks a lot for the info. i'm definately shifting.
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Post by indigophoenix on Aug 23, 2005 3:20:40 GMT -5
Very well written Maiden! Ya know, before reading this thread I never actually sat and thought about where on the higher vibration spectrum I stood. I can relate to Crystal's in the sense that I no longer question my true existence. I no longer question the existence of God because I see Him in all things. Also I used to LOVE getting in debates. Ever since I was a litte kid I would feel the need to argue my point and make damn sure it was heard. But now it's much different. I don't find really any joy in debating any more. I've come to understand that it is best to leave people to their own beliefs. And only explain mine to those who want to listen. I am also much more sensitive to the pain and suffering in my surroundings. But I can relate the Indigo's in the sense that whenever I see something that goes against my own morals or my own views of freedom, I become VERY defensive and argumentative. Though this can be quite emotionally exhausting at times. But regardless of how exhausting it can be, I will always let someone know if I believe that they are in the wrong. Hmm...I guess I've got some qualities of both.
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Post by Kivawolfspeaker on Aug 23, 2005 10:32:07 GMT -5
Indigo Pheonix,
Perhaps your shifting? It sounds like you might be.
Kiva
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Post by thecrystalmaiden on Aug 23, 2005 11:57:51 GMT -5
Pheonix,
It sounds to me like you're shifting! I've read that because more crystals are being born, the "vibration" of the planet is lifting and the indigo vibration is lifting with it. It doesn't really surprise me that we're all definitely heading for crystal, but that's really good to hear that you're making so much progress. I too remember that moment where I realize that a person is going to believe what they believe and they're the only one who can change their minds. If that makes sense, lol.
I actually think that most younger indigos are mixed between crystal and indigo traits because the crystal vibration is so strong right now.
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hiddenrelevance
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Post by hiddenrelevance on Sept 15, 2005 13:56:45 GMT -5
hey resa.. man been a long time since I was on here... I really don't know where I fall in along the higher vibrational spectrum... It almost seems as if I developed backward... You know how odd my life was- there was never a question for me that God was out there- even before I'd been told about him.. It was later that I started to ask and find and want to raise questions about everything around me. I still have that certainty and desire to protect and serve, but that need to seek never left either... So clueless... And I'm even older than most of you probably...
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Post by CrystalMaiden on Sept 15, 2005 22:21:42 GMT -5
Lol, actually most ppl on this site are between 14 and 26, you're definitely in the age range. I've always known you were indigo/crystal when I found out about this stuff Caity, didn't want to say anything tho cuz I wasn't sure if you were agreeing with it quite. But there's an aura test you can look at in the "Aura, Chakras, ehm Something" catagory that'll definitely give you an accurate reading. Honestly tho, the moment I found out about this I thought of you, because you wouldn't have the perception and you wouldn't see/sense those things unless you were part of this catagory. ^_^ *hugz* hehehe.
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hiddenrelevance
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Post by hiddenrelevance on Sept 16, 2005 11:12:00 GMT -5
lol.. i'll probably wander over to that testy thing than .. it may help me out some! :huggles:
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Post by Kivawolfspeaker on Sept 16, 2005 15:52:04 GMT -5
Hiddenrelevance,
Yes, most on this forum are somewhere inbetween the early teens to middle twenties age range (I'm 22). Also, I've not seen your posts until yesterday/a couple days ago. I look forward to see more of them.
Kiva
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Post by Shaelyn on Sept 16, 2005 23:43:31 GMT -5
ok...I have to wonder then, where I am on the spectrum.
Basically, I do believe in God...s/he is everywhere...s/he is everything. I know what's right. I don't seek Truth anymore, I have already found it. I don't necessarily like to argue with people about my viewpoint and their viewpoint. However, I still like to try to get people to think--and that involves questioning everything. Questioning why they think the way they do...try to get them to see for themselves why they think that way...and that other people think another way for another reason. ...they may not do anything with that bit of knowledge...they might not even get it. That's ok. There truely is a reason for everything...all a part of God's plan. If these people aren't ready to know why they think the way they do, that's ok.
So in a way, I still do like to "argue."
I don't necessarily stand up for what's "right" or "wrong" anymore. I do on some level...sometimes...but for the most part, I believe there is no right or wrong. People are doing the things they do for a reason, whether it's the way they were brought up, or they really believe they're doing the best they can. I *do NOT judge.* Everyone has their reasons for everything they do. Some of them I don't agree with (but why does the world have to agree with me anyway?) or may not quite make sense to me...but I probably don't quite make sense to a lot of people, either...Anyway, I may at that point ask them why they're doing what they do, and why they believe they have to do what they do to get ahead or whatever...and so forth with the questioning. ...Part of this is for my own benefit too...I learn a lot about myself when I question others...my own beliefs...why I say the things I do.
...In a lot of ways, I do try to speak out when someone is in pain...and in some ways, I don't. When it comes to love, I do try to help the person...but there's a part of me that's says, "get over it already." ...I know the person will be stronger for what happened in the end...that this did happen to them for a reason...so I just want them to get through the pain part and be normal and happy again. I used to comfort these people and be there for them...but now I just want them to stand on their own two feet and be strong...and I can't do it for them, I don't know how to help them...so I get frustrated...hence the "get over it already" attitude, that's in part venting my frustration that I don't know how to help them anymore.
Anyway...most of this I thought didn't quite sound like either...or sounded like shifting...or sound like I was being an ass, LOL...so what do you guys think?
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Post by thecrystalmaiden on Sept 17, 2005 10:50:08 GMT -5
The questions you must ask are "Do I share a serene inner connection and love between me and God?" and "When I see someone in pain, can I not tolerate it unless I do something?" To me God is not a figure or a representation of anything, he/she feels like a true mother and father to me, as though they are real "people" with thoughts and emotions and things. You didn't go into a description about how you feel God, but I suppose compare your feelings to that. =)
I find that, as you said, I love to get people thinking too by bringing up philisophical questions about spirituality. But even more important to me is setting an example for them of what it means to be a good person - that's what I find to be really important, you know?
It sounds to me as though if you are not crystal already, you are definitely very close to your big shift and very much on the way. Can you think of anything in your life, like a true unmistakable heighten in your awareness, an opening in your heart, which has brought you uniquely closer and more knowledgable of God? If not, then perhaps your are shifting or perhaps you were born crystal, but it truly depends on you, no one can answer that question but yourself. ^_^
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Post by Shaelyn on Sept 17, 2005 11:29:28 GMT -5
Can you think of anything in your life, like a true unmistakable heighten in your awareness, an opening in your heart, which has brought you uniquely closer and more knowledgable of God? One time once...that was actually the realization that the Christian belief of "heaven," the only heaven I've ever known, wasn't the heaven I believed in...that's when I started seeking Truth and God for myself...and I've learned a lot since then. I took that to be my shift into Indigo, maybe I was incorrect about that? Maybe that was the start of my shift into Crystal...I don't think I'm done shifting yet...at least with me, it seems like it's been a process...for sure it didn't all happen overnight. ~shrug~ to me God isn't necessarily like a person...God is moreso the connection to everything. With God, I can find the resources I need to grow and learn and do what I need to...and that connection is love. We were all created with love, it's only natural that we'd all be connected with it. Those that disconnect themselves from love distance themselves from...everything. hmmm...speaking of which...the other night I had a dream, where I could run through anything like it was a hologram...I was running through shelves in a library. I kinda get the feeling that this connection, this love, is the key to opening up your ability to do that...because I'm as connected to the wall through this love as I am to a person, as I am to God. ...that's an interesting thought. I wonder how possible that is...usually my dreams aren't nearly that direct though. Anyway, I was going to say that I don't really see God as a mother or father figure so much...I suppose that might be because I've never had the need. God is a loving figure (if a figure at all), but...I don't really see him/her that way. The mother and father of all things, yes, and I do look up to him/her for help and answers...but yet...it's not quite the same. I guess that might be because my parents are more questionable...and God is just more helpful.
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Post by cherise on Sept 17, 2005 13:37:51 GMT -5
Do you think it's possible to go back and forth through all the vibrations of the awareness spectrum?
Nothing seems permanent for too long. It very likely, we're able to go up and down with different light vibrations according to our own personal needs and perceptions. It relates to what kind of energy each unique situation calls for.
When I sense even a fraction of a divine essence, I don't trace that feeling back to the specific word, God. For me, no human word I've felt yet can describe the experience of being in a moment of light. I'm very happy that the word God can instill an accessible heavenly vibration, and collectively divine word to worship. But, I haven't been able to give it a name.
We are told the mystic names of the ArcAngels, thank goodness. It helps to be able to call on more than one word.
So, we have to put names to things for us to really experience them. I like that I can call on specific energy names, in specific moments. It helps to divide the information from my heart to my brain, so with sincerity, I can perceive it with pure intention. It's how we learn.
I feel it would be limiting for me to say I'm crystal, rainbow, indigo, or anything else exclusively. I prefer the freedom to travel all vibrations, avoiding the temptation to create a defininitive label of awareness.
However, labels serve as great tools to help us grasp things that are new. Ironically, they divide us as well. This makes labelling the "awareness potential" as both accessible, and hurtful to the mainstream of thoughts.
When I feel God, I'd rather think the word, FOREVER. It's too dodgy with the whole he/she thing.
It seems the breathairiens on Earth are leading the way to living in the light.
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Post by thecrystalmaiden on Sept 17, 2005 14:05:45 GMT -5
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Post by Kivawolfspeaker on Sept 17, 2005 14:44:34 GMT -5
Cherise,
I tend to agree with you are the whole trying not to label issue. Whatever the label, it's ALL important because without everything, the world as it is today would not exist, and we would not be evolving the way we are if everything did not exist and was not important.
Also, on the "God" thing. "God" to me seems to be more of a presence rather then a figure. Like Shaelyn was saying "God" is more of a unifying presence than say a father/mother figure.
Kiva
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Post by cherise on Sept 17, 2005 15:45:59 GMT -5
Do you guys know anything about the Breathairiens?
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Post by thecrystalmaiden on Sept 17, 2005 16:08:51 GMT -5
Well, let me try to explain better I guess. Of course God is everywhere, God is everything, we're inside of God right now and we all parts of God. But God is also our father and our mother, and I'm forever grateful that I can feel the closeness that I do with them. It in just indescribable, I understand what you are all saying, but what I feel is just not quite the same. I don't think you can go back and forth between vibrations in my opinion, I mean I never have. For me it's just an endless progression forward, I mean I guess it's different for everyone but once your soul truly learns a lesson, it never forgets. Knowledge gained through experience is never lost - if a person was to go back and forth, then what they're having are simply deep thoughts really, but they haven't really learned what they're thinking about, u know? Like you need to experience something to make your soul realize it before it can be finalized. Please keep this discussion on topic - I don't want to be rude Cherise, I think that question about the "Breathairiens" is interesting but start it in a new topic, maybe on the general board.
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Post by c on Sept 17, 2005 16:49:51 GMT -5
But, what does going forward really mean? Isn't "going forward" just a perception of linear time? Once you see any colour, you never forget it. Sometimes, we all feel blue, red, orange, green, yellow, violet, and so on. And, sometimes it's a combination of some, or all of those colours. That is the great perception of light, or the qualities of the living forces. The spectrum of the rainbow.
My theory is, the Breathairiens could be potential leaders of what is being called the "shift to Crystal" vibrations. I'm proposing that they are linked.
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Post by Shaelyn on Sept 18, 2005 0:32:34 GMT -5
When I feel God, I'd rather think the word, FOREVER. It's too dodgy with the whole he/she thing. I kind of tend to agree...Forever does seem better. When I feel God, I think of LOVE more. ...anyway...I don't use 'He', because I don't believe God has a gender. Using 'it' just seems inadequate...so I kinda settle for s/he, for lack of a better pronoun...and I prefer to have a pronoun I can settle for than none at all...besides, often it'll get people to think.
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Post by thecrystalmaiden on Sept 18, 2005 19:55:44 GMT -5
Well, gender is an Earth thing. I don't think of myself as having a gender either. He She more has to do with the father/mother feelings.
"Forward" in this case can be called "progression" and to say that the soul does not progress is... well... kinda inaccurate in my opinion. Perhaps we all feel different vibrations once in a while because of our emotional states, but it's the state we always return to afterwards that is the soul's vibration. There are many different kinds of vibrations in the aura, some are more permanent than others.
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Post by cherise on Sept 18, 2005 21:09:51 GMT -5
Of course, the soul progresses. An effective way to measure this is how well a person understands the meanings of each colour in the rainbow, how they express those colours, how they feel in those colours, how they communicate their individual state of being in each colour.
To understand what each colour vibration means in the spectrum of a rainbow, we'd have to experience each colour with all our senses, and then seperate ourselves from it. Isn't that progress of the soul?
My feelings tell me, one would have to be absolutely consumed in pursuit of the meaning of light and colour at an internal level, to even suggest a crystalline vibration.
Please take note, I'm responding honestly and am not implying any personal indifference to what you're saying. This is not an attack on your beliefs. This forum is a fantastic venue to really put the ideas out there, and be united by our curiosity and pursuit of universal truth.
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Post by djgirlcherise on Sept 19, 2005 15:52:22 GMT -5
Hi Arya,
You really shared some brilliant thoughts.
I'm eternally linked to opposites of understanding by this birth cycle I'm in. Pisces/Pisces/Rat. But, I'm aware of it, and I'm pursuing it's meaning every waking day.
I'm glad that you brought up DNA. The more we talk about it, the more we exercise that muscle. I feel that stretch in my brain, when I go to the place I can not see with my eyes, only my I.
Sometimes, it's explosions of colours, which turn into voices. Sometimes, it's like a radio station with a lot of music. Sometimes, it's just static.
Other people might feel numbers and symbols in the same way. It is a spiral, but I wouldn't use the word towards. I feel the description to be more outward. Like a person's head getting bigger.
I know that probably sounds wierd, but think of the old cliche "that person is so full of themselves, their head is going to explode".
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Post by thecrystalmaiden on Sept 28, 2005 13:01:56 GMT -5
Arya, I completely agree with you! What a wonderful way to view everything, hehe, and it is so true what you said about the male and female. I'm in an anthropology class right now, specifically studying human genetics, and it is stunning how much of our body relies on a balance between two extremes. As in DNA - there needs to be two strands. In our neurotrasmitters, there needs to be a homeostasis between the chemicals in order for our nerves to function, basically everything in our own bodies and in existence relies on a balance. It becomes so much more clear that our souls rely also on an inner balance, a balance perhaps of the masculine and feminine, a balance of knowledge/love/and experience, and finding the balance amongst all the vibrations is very much a part of our progression. ^_^ Although I am happy to have reached what some refer to as "crystal", I will not be satisfied until I have progressed to a point where there are no more catagories that people can point at and apply to me (for I don't apply them to myself), and rather I am just a part of everything. I'm sure you know what I mean. I think what this topic shows is that no matter what you believe, it is good to respect another's opinion, and you've all done such a wonderful job of it! Perhaps we should start a topic on the "Spirituality" forum to better discuss our individual views and perceptions of God, and leave this topic up to more questions/concerns about shifting to crystal. Sounds like a good idea? If anyone's interested, you can go ahead and start the topic, I'm sure it'll be pretty popular.
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Post by indigirl on Sept 28, 2005 13:05:28 GMT -5
I think that topic sounds like a great idea CM
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