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Post by indigophoenix on Aug 2, 2005 3:30:25 GMT -5
Well, since there are barely any posts under this topic, I'll throw one in. This is my last experience with A.P. There are a couple things you should know before I begin. First is that I'm still a beginner in Astral Projection although I've been practicing for several months. So my depth of knowledge in this field as far as experience goes is fairly limited. The second thing is that if you're not familiar with A.P. there is a term I'll be using quite often called " Vibrations" that I'll need to explain. Vibrations can feel as weak as a mild buzzing inside your body, to feeling like you're having a seizure. But your physical body doesn't even move, it's more like they occur on a non-physical level. The Vibrations are generally felt just prior to and at the time of your Astral Body seperating from your Physical Body. The following is pulled directly from Journal. Journal Entry-My First Astral Split Jun. 5th, 2005 | 4:42am
This is my second and most recent Astral experience to date. It was utterly profound and I could never begin to explain how much this experience has changed my views on...well everything. I wish everyone could experience what I did a few days ago. It is now the 5th of June, this happened on Thursday the 2nd. I was only in Astral Form for no more than 15 seconds (or what seemed like 15 seconds,) but during that time I felt more aware of myself than I ever have. Also, when my 3rd Eye was vibrating (I'll go more in depth later on) I felt very psychically charged. The Vibrations were inconcievably strong. Anyway, this is what happened.
I had gotten a full 8 hours of sleep and was awake for about 5 hours when I decided to take a nap and attempt an A.P. I figured since I got Vibrations from doing this last time, I'd try it again. I was thinking about A.P. but I wasn't really focusing on it or anything.
My "nap" turned out to be around 4-5 hours long and this is what happened during that time. After initially falling asleep I awoke after an unkown amount of time feeling the Vibrations in my body. I remembered the sensation instantly. They were very strong, like the first time. The Vibrations lasted for what seemed like a very long time. I remember trying to control my breathing to hold the Vibrations. But eventually the Vibrations faded and dissapointed, I drifted back to sleep.
I awoke some time later to the Vibrations again, only stronger than before. Surging throughout my body like an earthquake. I remember trying to concentrate as hard as I could on the Vibrations but I ended up losing consciousness during them. I awoke again sometime later and looked at the clock and saw that I had been asleep for about 2 hours but still felt very sleepy so I laid my head back down and continued my nap.
I was woken up from the Vibrations for a third time, only this time they were located in my 3rd Eye region only. Although they were only in one small area of my body, the Vibrations felt stronger than they ever have before. It felt like a lightning bolt was continuously blasting electricity into my 3rd Eye, only without pain. The Vibrations became faster and faster and then something inside me told me that it was time. So I projected my consciousness out of my body (if i could explain it any better than that i would, but i just don't know how.)
I still remember it vividly, as I projected my consciousness outward, I felt like I was launched off of the ground like I had just jumped on a trampoline. As I left my body my Astral Senses kicked in and I could see my room. It was kind of dim. I knew instantly that I had sucessfully transferred my consciousness into my Astral Body. I don't have the words to describe what it literally felt like, except that I gained a level of understanding of my non-physical self that, until that moment, would have been no less than unfathomable to me.
I was so overwhelmed with excitment that I had to will myself back into my physical body. I decided that I had gone far enough on this journey. I awoke with the biggest smile on my face! I'm smiling now just writing about it! Any doubts I had are gone. And I can't wait till my next Projection!!!Well, that's it. If you want to learn more about Astral Projection or if you want to check out some cool experiences others have had, check out: www.jonasridgeway.comThis definately isn't the only good site on this topic, but it does happen to be one of my favorites. There are several other good resources that can be found throughout the internet. Thanks for reading
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Post by ne ws oci e ty on Aug 3, 2005 16:36:37 GMT -5
That's pretty inspiring. I've been planning on projecting for a while. I've tried twice and reached the point where I knew I was about to project, but bailed out because I didn't think I was ready. I got this book called "Astral Dynamics" by robert bruce, and it's VERY thorough, hopefully I can finish it soon and then I will probably feel more comfortable projecting. I highly recommend this book to anyone and everyone, the guy is very experienced. Every page of the 500+ page book is valuable.
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Post by indigophoenix on Aug 6, 2005 2:27:55 GMT -5
I personally dont have that book but I would like to get it. Robert Bruce is one of the most famous people associated with Astral Projection/Out-Of-Body Experiences. I know what you mean about being scared or not ready. I'm still struggling with that. I think this would have been much easier for me had I started when I was a young child. I wouldn't have doubted myself at all back then. But this day in age, society conditions us to believe that if you can't sense it with one of your five physical senses, then it doesn't exist. And after being drilled with this my entire life, I actually started to believe it.
But then I went through what I like to call, my "Re-Awakening." I realized that modern science in unreliable at best. Old theories are replaced by new ones on a daily basis. And my question to anyone that believes nothing exists beyond the five senses is "What then, is thought?" I can't taste, touch, hear, smell, or see my thoughts. And yet, there they are!!! Unfortunately old habits die hard and I still find myself at times, questioning myself. So I chose to pursue psychic abilities that had visible results; aura viewing, PK, etc. Which has definately helped overcome that disbelief barrier.
Our biggest hindrances to our non-physical abilities is doubt, fear, and lack of understanding. If we can learn to overcome these obstacles, there's no telling what we can accomplish.
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Post by ne ws oci e ty on Aug 6, 2005 2:32:49 GMT -5
for some reason I've been fearful that I would do something wrong during projection and hurt my body, or something, that's why I'd like to finish this book first
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Post by indigophoenix on Aug 7, 2005 1:45:31 GMT -5
The most important thing that I learned is that we all astrally project every night when we fall asleep, we just aren't conscious when it happens. So your body is at no more risk of injury during astral projection than it is during a regular nights sleep. This is also an important thing to remember while actually in the astral realm. There are many things in the astral that may invoke fear and anxiety in you. But if you remember to keep in mind that you are in control and that your physical body is sleeping soundly in bed, this should help keep your fears at bay.
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Post by thecrystalmaiden on Aug 25, 2005 4:01:49 GMT -5
Wow, I didn't know we astral projected every night, that's a whole lot reassuring. I've always been really excited to try astral projection and I think it would have to be one of the coolest things to do, and the fact that you're having success really inspires me. I think I'm going to start giving it a try! ^_^
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Post by indigophoenix on Aug 25, 2005 4:56:19 GMT -5
Here's sumthin that may help. Do you ever have those dreams where you are moving so fast that you become somewhat concious and wake yourself up? This used to, and still does happen to me often on. And I've noticed, now that I practice A.P. that these feelings of moving extremely fast come right before the Vibrations begin. I've had to teach myself that when I become concious to those feelings, not to wake myself up but to concentrate on them. I focus on them and before I know it, the Vibrations begin. The first time this happens to you, I can say with a fair amount of certainty that you'll become so excited that you wake up. It is so intense the first time. Sometime's you'll hear weird and loud sounds, even voices. This is because your conciousness is already inside your Astral Body, it's just trying to seperate. So you'll hear, sometimes see things that are actually a part of the Astral World, even though you can feel that your physical eyes are closed. It's quite difficult to explain, but you'll understand when it happens. As for methods, one very good method that works for a lot of people is not to attempt AP before you go to bed. It's too easy to lose conciousness and fall asleep. It's better to attempt it say, before an afternoon nap. And when you go to take your nap, lay down on your back and bend your arm so your forearm is in the air, pointing upwards. If you start to doze off, your arm will fall which should keep you from falling asleep. Bringing yourself to the edge of sleep is very important, but not totally necessary. Because Astral Projection's can occur thru dreams as well. If you become conscious during a dream, you'll either start Lucid Dreaming (which is the easiest way to trigger an AP) or an AP will begin right away. REMEMBER, if you EVER become conscious during sleep DO NOT WAKE YOURSELF UP! Just go along with the experience and enjoy!!!
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Post by thecrystalmaiden on Aug 25, 2005 5:06:25 GMT -5
Wow, all the times I happened to "come into control" while I was sleeping end with me waking up, lol.
Your tips have been very helpful, I'll definitely keep them in mind. Maybe I'll try tomorrow. Oh hey, I was talking to a friend online and she said that when she astral projects, she asks her spirit guide for help first and he assists her so it's easier. I don't know whether you've met your guide or not, but I'm sure s/he would be able to make it at least a little easier for you. They can't help unless you ask out loud though (freedom of choice, you have to ask for assistence and they can't read your mind without permission.) Have you heard of that?
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Post by indigophoenix on Aug 25, 2005 5:12:48 GMT -5
Yes I have heard from many sources that asking your spirit guide(s) for help can assist in AP. Astral Projection is a lot like meditation in the sense that while there are certain guidelines you should follow, whatever works best for you is the way to go. For those that feel a close connection to their spirit guide(s) and feel comfortable asking for their help should definately do so.
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Post by thecrystalmaiden on Aug 25, 2005 5:15:36 GMT -5
Hm... also, I've had an experience while astral projecting where I felt like I was being sucked through the bottom of the bed. Is that usual?
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Post by indigophoenix on Aug 25, 2005 5:18:58 GMT -5
Oh definately, if you were falling through the bed then your Astral Body had already seperated from your physical body. Your Astral Body is signifcantly less dense than your Physical and has the ability to pass through Physical objects.
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Post by thecrystalmaiden on Aug 25, 2005 5:23:47 GMT -5
Where did you learn all of this stuff? Do you read it all in books or are there sites you can go to or what? I know psypog is helpful and also Laurel has about a million different suggestions on her site, but you seem to have a lot more detailed information.
How would one go about meeting someone else while astral projecting? Like would they set a place and time or something? I'd imagine it would be a little confusing.
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Post by indigophoenix on Aug 25, 2005 5:38:03 GMT -5
I don't really like the articles that psipog has on AP. They aren't nearly detailed enough. A good site for beginners is www.jonasridgeway.com There's a lot of good info on that site. Other than that I just basically went to every internet site I could possibly find on the subject. As far as meeting someone goes, yes it is possible. In fact there is a website (I forgot the name, I wish that I didn't) that is dedicated to these types of meetings. There are a few thousand people that are a part of the site and they will set up big meetings with dozens of people. One way is to pick a particular place to meet, like the Pyramids of Egypt for example. This is a very popular place for Astral Travelers to meet. I wish I knew more about this, but I really haven't had any experience in it. But countless people have done it so I know that it is possible.
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Post by thecrystalmaiden on Aug 25, 2005 5:40:53 GMT -5
I have a surprise for you, go check my gallery and the latest three deviations. =)
I'll go check out those links. Do you know anyone else who's astral traveled? I mean so far you and my other friend online do and it would be so cool if we could all get to the point where we could meet later on in life and chat, hehe.
Also, does astral travel have anything to do with those "sleep paralysis" dreams? because the last time I got one I felt like I was moving forward really fast and then i woke up in sleep paralysis. Maybe I started astral projecting and did it the wrong way?
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Post by indigophoenix on Aug 25, 2005 6:38:20 GMT -5
Yeah that would be cool! From what I understand, sleep paralysis can happen for several reasons. But what happened to you sounds like your consciousness was leaving your physical body, then when you woke yourself up, it kind of "jerked" your consciousness back into your physcial body so to speak. It is said that sometimes when we wake up abruptly, we become conscious while the physical body hasn't actually woken up. It's kind of an odd phenomena and there isn't any solid proof as to why it actually happens. (Thanx again for the deviations Theresa!)
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Post by thecrystalmaiden on Aug 25, 2005 11:33:41 GMT -5
=) You should try using the larger one on here, I think the dimensions will fit.
I love that site on AP btw, it's upbeat AND informative. ^_^ I really like what it says about needing to be obsessed with AP, it makes sense, I mean all the things I've been successful with in the passed by became obsessed over and I suppose that's just a way to ensure that we don't give up or "cash in our chips" too early.
Have you ever read any books by Sylvia Browne? She talks about astral projection a little but she says she doesn't like it as much because she finds it hard to control - and my other friend said she projected on accident once and ended up crashing into a tree and being snapped back to her body. Did you find it hard to control? It seemed in your journal entry that everything was very calm and collected for you.
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Post by ne ws oci e ty on Aug 25, 2005 12:10:21 GMT -5
In "Astral Dynamics" Mr. Bruce mentions that control problems stem from inexperience and improper or lack of projection pre-procedure (lack of physical relaxation, lack of energy work). Again I recommend the book especially for serious projectors, as it covers so much. It's a gem, you won't regret getting it. The guy has been projecting for something like 50 years. I finished the book recently and am in the process of implementing a regular projection schedule so to speak.
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Post by thecrystalmaiden on Aug 25, 2005 12:13:20 GMT -5
NewSociety, that book sounds perfect. I think I'll run out and get it asap. Thanks so much for the information! =)
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Post by Kivawolfspeaker on Aug 25, 2005 19:40:32 GMT -5
Reading this thread re-minded me of an experience I had about two years ago. I was either Lucid Dreaming or having a conscious Astral Projection. All I remember now about the experience was the phone rang, and I was told my parents died. I then, remember feeling like either my loft was breaking or I was falling through my lofted bed and I woke up rather shocked.
Kiva
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Post by indigophoenix on Aug 26, 2005 0:20:19 GMT -5
I love that site on AP btw, it's upbeat AND informative. ^_^ I really like what it says about needing to be obsessed with AP, it makes sense, I mean all the things I've been successful with in the passed by became obsessed over and I suppose that's just a way to ensure that we don't give up or "cash in our chips" too early. Oh yeah definately, that's something that I meant to mention last night. This is probably the most important thing you can do to prepare yourself for AP. The main reason being that if you become conscious during sleep the first thing you want to cross through your mind is Astral Projection. And it also makes it so much easier for random AP's to occur. (I've spent so much time reading about AP that I don't think there is a day that goes by that I don't think about it at least once.) Have you ever read any books by Sylvia Browne? She talks about astral projection a little but she says she doesn't like it as much because she finds it hard to control - and my other friend said she projected on accident once and ended up crashing into a tree and being snapped back to her body. Did you find it hard to control? It seemed in your journal entry that everything was very calm and collected for you. I have heard quite a bit about Sylvia but I have not read any of her books. To answer your question, yes control can be very difficult at times. It has a lot to do with how comfortable you are. I can't quite remember the exact terminology, but the Astral World is very easily manipulated by thought. Many strange things can happen in the Astral if you are not in total control. There is a term, the "Alice in Wonderland Effect," which basically refers to how distorted the Astral World can become if your sub-conscious begins to take control. I haven't yet had a problem with this because I haven't been consciously in the Astral Body for any long period of time. There have been a couple particular times where I could have, but I just didn't feel ready. It's kinda funny, when I first got into AP I wanted nothing more than to be able to AP right away and go travel everywhere etc etc, but whenever I feel the Vibrations or actually seperate, I end up making the decision to stop shortly there after. The biggest reason being that it takes a lot of time and experience for most people to become comfortable with leaving one's physical body. The main thing to remember is that your consciousness is no longer inside your phyisical body. For beginners, the feelings and sensations that go along with this are so powerful yet so bizzare that most become far too excited or anxious to continue. This is why practice and patience are so important.
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Post by thecrystalmaiden on Aug 26, 2005 14:22:17 GMT -5
It was amazing - the other day I was able to do what you explained where your body falls asleep but your mind is awake. For a while I was staring at a shadowy image of the upper corner of a door until I realize "Omg, that's my door but my eyes are closed!" and then it went away.
Then the phone rang - it was in my room for some reason - and the jolt it gave my body when the body came back awake was very surprising. It's funny how your mind gets so relaxed when you do it, you're not thinking about anything and it seems so normal when something out of the ordinary happens, then as soon as you pay that "out of the ordinary" thing too much attention, you fall out of the trance.
I'm excited for my first astral projection, but I'm trying not to anticipate or think that I'll do it "soon" or "later." I've discovered that I have a tendency to think about things to much and ultimately it becomes harder to achieve what I wanted to do - especially with spiritual stuff. When I practice, I lay back and breathe slowly until I'm on the verge of sleep, then I try to imagine that "flying" feeling you get in dreams when you're going really really fast. The first time I did it, I got very tiny tingles all over my body and just like you said - after a few seconds they all swarmed up and centered around my third eye. They stayed there for a while, then went away. I think what I experienced was a very mini version of the vibrations you talked about. It is very awesome because now I have an affirmation that it really does happen and I can do it if I practice (in case any part of me was in doubt before.) ^_^
Thanks so much for the wonderful information! I'll talk to you tonight, hm? =) Also, I'd suggest reading some books by Sylvia Browne. I suggest first reading "The Other Side and Back" so you can get a feel for her, after reading that book I was convinced she was genuine. Then I read the "Journey of the Soul" series and let me tell you, I understand spirituality in a completely different way now that makes absolutely perfect sense. In fact, I understand it so well it's more like I'm remembering it, it's so very familiar and dejavu-like. Out of the authors I've read, her stuff rings with the most truth to me. I hope it will help you out, too. ^_^
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