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Post by Kivawolfspeaker on Sept 26, 2005 22:15:43 GMT -5
I don't remember if I posted this somewhere on H.V. or not, but during my Sophmore year of college(2002-2003) I had an interesting experience. I thought it was a lucid dream at the time, but with all the talk of A.P. it might have been an A.P. Anyways, here is the experience. I remember at first floating in a black inky sea. I heard the phone in my dorm room ring (the phone did not actually ring). I answered the phone and I was told that my aunt and uncle who raised me had died. Upon hearing this I felt my loft break underneath me and was jolted awake. Again, as with the phone ringing, my loft did not actually break. Even though none of this actually happened, I could have sworn that it was all real.
So, was this just a lucid dream or did I actually Astral Projection without realizing it?
Kiva
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Post by Shaelyn on Sept 27, 2005 17:13:37 GMT -5
...at least my understanding of it...a lucid dream is more the type of thing where you realize you are dreaming within your dream, and therefore you have total control of your dream. for example, I once had a dream that a tornado was coming...mass destruction. I used to have those dreams frequently. Well, this time, I was in a mall, hiding, scared out of my life...and then I realized, "wait a second, I always dream of tornadoes, and I've never really been in one. I'm dreaming." And suddenly I was in total control...so I went shopping in the emptied mall, LOL...I didn't really know what else to do with it. It didn't last long, either. So...I'd say perhaps AP.
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Post by Kivawolfspeaker on Sept 27, 2005 21:12:42 GMT -5
That's interesting because I always thought lucid dreams were dreams that seemed very really, but were just dreams. I haven't really thought about it possibly being an AP until there was a bunch of talk of it here.
Kiva
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Post by indigophoenix on Sept 27, 2005 22:14:37 GMT -5
Well it would have been a Lucid Dream if you at anytime during the dream, became aware that you were dreaming. As for whether or not it was an A.P. I guess to me it doesn't sound like it. The Astral World typically mirrors the physical world fairly well, aside from the logical side of our brain distorting a few things. Otherwise, to me, it just sounds like a very vivid dream.
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Post by Kivawolfspeaker on Sept 27, 2005 22:16:32 GMT -5
no, I was not aware I was dreaming until I woke up.
Kiva
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Post by indigophoenix on Sept 27, 2005 22:18:49 GMT -5
My guess is that it was a Lucid Dream then, you don't have to take control of a dream for it to be considered a Lucid Dream, you only have to become aware of the fact that you are dreaming.
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Post by Shaelyn on Sept 28, 2005 0:58:04 GMT -5
My guess is that it was a Lucid Dream then, you don't have to take control of a dream for it to be considered a Lucid Dream, you only have to become aware of the fact that you are dreaming. I would have thought the two would go hand-in-hand...?
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Post by indigophoenix on Sept 28, 2005 8:20:47 GMT -5
Actually no...levels of lucidity can flucuate quite a bit. I personally can recall many dreams where I have become conscious of dreaming, but haven't actually been able to take control of the dream. Kind of like being a conscious observer...some people use the term, Semi-Lucid Dream for this particular type of dream.
But there are other dreams I have had, where I have become conscious of dreaming, and actually taken control; sometimes it's only partial control, for example being able to control my own actions, but not the setting of the dream, or the people in it. You can call this a Partial-Control Lucid Dream.
And then there are other dreams where I've taken full control; for example controlling where I am and controlling actions of other people in the dream. You can call this a Full-Control or Full-Blown Lucid Dream.
So yeah there are different categories of Lucid Dreams.
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Post by Kivawolfspeaker on Sept 28, 2005 8:30:00 GMT -5
Oh, interesting. Thanks, Phoenix for the information. So, if you were aware you were dreaming, even though it wasn't until after you woke up, it could still be considered a lucid dream?
Now that I think about it, I'm not sure if I "felt" my loft breaking because that was what was happening in the dream or if I was being snapped back into my body so hard that it felt as if my loft was breaking under me.
Kiva
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Post by jeremy on Sept 29, 2005 7:06:01 GMT -5
As well as full lucid dreams, I have had dreams where I've realised I was dreaming, but I forgot that this means I can control things, so I just had to wait for the dream to finish and get rather bored. In interesting lucid dream I had last year was when I realised I was dreaming and that I knew everything about the dream-world but didn't bother to manipulate it except by using a greater degree of insight in my actions for the rest of the dream. I'm sure that in any dream, you can take control as soon as you realise you can. Actually, you don't have to realise you're dreaming, the dream itself can sometimes provide another means of putting you in control (such as one time I dreamt I could change things by playing a grass whistle).
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