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Post by waterjag on May 17, 2006 11:37:46 GMT -5
Right, now to cut out out the quotes, and understand myself for this. Healing is the process of getting sick, and then making a full recovery. You can't heal, if you aren't sick in the first place right? So should I start worrying about getting sick in the first place? SOme of you might, I say that also the getting over it the healing process is as valid as the getting sick process.
So why do we get sick? Well in this world, there is us, and sometimes we like to fall back and let someone else in. This can be a good thing as without other people's help we wouldn't be able to progress, but if we let in the wrong energy, we may invite pathogens, or weaknesses into ourselves. So why are they there? Are they just there to cause us to suffer and have discomfort? Partly yes! But why is this so? It is to remind ourselves of the discomfort that we have endured throughout the whole process of being human. One disease or weakness could be due to the whole story of evolution and our descent as high energy beings without form into form as one!
This brings us to the healing, well, there are symptons of a problem, the duration of the cause and the cause. WHat is best is to eradicate the cause, or prevent it from happening.
There are a few unique ways to do this but mainly they go like this: changing ourselves so that we overcome weaknesses, for example arthritis can be overcome by alighning up energy meridians (the hot or cold fields in the body that travel in specific pathways). We can also get other people to help, for example...if we want to alleviate symptons of allergies, then we can take some medicine. but that does not remove the cause, to remove the cause we might want to distant ourselves from whatever gives us that allergy. But is this really curing us? The best methods of healing tackle straight to the heart of the problem, and are found in reiki, chinese healing, self healing, and (tries to think of western healing) err friendly people promoting a healthy attitude.
In all, I have experienced vomiting from a pathogen or a bacteria..now how did this happen? Well, we all have bacteria in us, in our guts, so what happens if you send damaging thoughts?
Maybe all disease is is a thought? That has been my experience.
What's more is that I have again conciously created a situation where I wanted to feel what it was like to be sick, and was again sick. Now I try to create a condition where I am healthy.
There is a beleif that suffering alleviates sin, but isn't this another kind of thought? I tell you, if you want to understand healing, thought is a good starting point
More on thought coming up, I am now off to a lesson in street dancing in a quarter of an hour.
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Post by pearldancer on May 17, 2006 18:15:56 GMT -5
What I have come to understand is that what manifests as physical suffering of whatever sort begins at the level of the spiritual. If you think of the physical body as the center and move outward you come to the emotional body and beyond that the spiritual body. . . beyond that I believe there would be a universal body? or other higher layers but I will stick to what I am familiar with and that is the 3 inner most layers. So what occurs when an "issue" connects with us at a spiritual level. .... a conflict say, and we decide not to deal with it? It keeps knocking. .. . .asking for resolution (did you ever make a life decision that you knew didn't "feel" right for you but your brain and your lower self decided that it was the most logical, accepted, expected or practical choice??) When that happens it wounds us at a spiritual level and if we respond to that initial feeling . . .if we respond to it at that level then it need not proceed further. However, very often we do not respond. . .we feel it but we choose to ignore it, for whatever reason. At this point, with enough refusal to deal at the spiritual level the original issue will enter the emotional body. Here we come into all sorts of things that are very familiar and that we allow to plague us on a regular basis. .. . from uncontrolled self doubt or analysis to depression, to more severe emotional conflicts we now have a "problem" that is more in our faces..... . knocking a bit more loudly now and asking to please not be ignored again. If however, we still do not face the issue it will find a way to manifest itself in the physical body where we can no longer ignore it. ... ..where we MUST live with it in a very real way on a daily basis. So what I am saying . .. .has anyone ever watched Dharma and Greg? is that "a bug can only get in when you leave the screen door open." In order to heal.. . on any level, we must be willing to face our issues. . whatever they may be. We must be open to the process, open to accepting ourselves and open to letting go of what anyone or anything but our heart and our spirit tells us is correct. Much illness continues because we give ourselves over to it and because we refuse to open our eyes and seek the source of the true problem. I believe, as Jacques said, there may be reasons why we need to allow ourselves to become ill at a physical level but in my opinion the time for these types of experiments is coming to an end. It has been a means of learning for us and for those of us who have certain roles in the New Earth it has perhaps been our most important life lesson/s to date. . .. a key part of the understanding we will need to take on what comes next. I do feel however, that we enter a time when illness and healing will never again exist in the same way as they are currently percieved.
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Post by Sáille on May 18, 2006 3:31:08 GMT -5
I have been sick for quite a few years. Nothing remotely serious though... always felt like a bad flu, but it occurred at least once a week. In bad weeks it was stretched to four or five days. Funny thing was that I had no problems in the weekend or in the holidays, but on the moment I had to go back to school I felt sick again. I did feel everything as though I really was sick. I threw up, my head was spinning, I was crawling on the floor because of a stomachache... but in reality all of this was caused by my emotional and spiritual problems at the time.
Now I can say I made myself sick. I have gone through some really bad times -- bullying and so on -- in school and falling ill was my way of getting out of the situation in itself. Needless to say is that it worked perfectly and so I've been in this vicious cycle for about 5 to 6 years as we speak. I'm slowly gaining my control over this, though, and now I fall ill only once or twice a month. ^-^ But getting out of this vicious cycle is so hard because it has been my means of escape for so long. On a spiritual level I have never really accepted myself for who I am since I went to school when I was little. I'm working on getting healthier in this respect by being here on the boards and by regaining trust in who I am.
I allowed myself to become ill at a physical level, whereas it could've just been an emotional/spiritual illness if I hadn't chosen to make myself ill in this way. Disease, for me, still largely depends on my own thoughts.
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Post by pearldancer on May 18, 2006 5:41:13 GMT -5
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Post by Kivawolfspeaker on May 18, 2006 7:38:37 GMT -5
As I understand it, one can only heal themselves. All a healer does is provide the room for that people to heal themselves. As for where sickness/illness/problems come from I would have to say that yes, often the cause is not physical.
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Post by muirrin on May 18, 2006 8:53:50 GMT -5
^ I have a feeling I might need to step in as a healer now, and all I am supposed to do is be there for support and comfort while the victim puts in the hard work.
My sister was bullied for years, and she used to get sick quite a lot. Just before she broke down and left her old high school, she got really sick, and I think that's what alerted my parents to the fact that something was really wrong... cos she never really talked about it. And I know that whenever I'm stressed, my immune system automatically goes right downhill.
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Post by jonnathetiger on May 18, 2006 9:32:13 GMT -5
This does bring up an interesting concept. I do believe in psychosomatic illness, however, I also believe that sometimes intervention from The Spirit often occurs. What I mean by this is that yes, we can "make ourselves sick mentally or physically. but what of terminal diseases? Yes, it is true that some people wish to die & get terminal illnesses, but what of those that survive? Why do some survive & others do not?
I pose this question because last year I developed cancer. I went through a week of chemotherapy & felt horrid. One night, when I was in bed, I was visited by an orb. I still remember the popping sound it made when it appeared. It whirled in front of me, touched my face & whispered. I know it sounds odd, but I swear it healed me & also allowed me to view a different level of consciousness.
I did not want to have cancer--as a matter of fact, it was a total shock--but I learned from having it that more IS out there. I had to face my own mortality &, to a degree, CHOOSE which path I wanted to take. Did I want to give in to the disease or fight? I chose to fight & live.
I do not tell many people of the orb, but I know it has a message for some. Was I hallucinating? Was it all what I WANTED to see? No. Some suggest it was an OOB experience, but I have also had an OOB & it was not my own soul popping into another dimension as others have suggested. I just know it was a way of healing my spiritual body to help my physical body if that makes sense.
I do believe in mind over matter--my father ingrained this in an early age by teaching us to "wish away our tickles". He would tell us to say "It doesn't tickle" when he ran his finger on the underside of our feet (ticklish feet in our family). After time, we learned to think "It doesn't tickle" & guess what? It didn't.
So, yes, to heal yourself, you must acknowledge the sickness. Be it mental or physical. Then, you must focus on what you want & teach your will to achieve it. However, I also believe that "healers" do have special abilities that not everyone possesses. Sure, we can all do specific things, like meditate, but not everyone can have the same skills--just like everyone cannot be a painter or a mechanic. We all have specific gifts & I believe that by sharing our knowledge & teaching others we can integrate & change things.
I know collective consciousness is the key to our new future. Many people who are earthbound choose to ignore this. However, for those of us that "get it", we can simply look at this ability as yet another gift & just use the tools we have to make tomorrow's world even better.
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Post by liquidchild on May 18, 2006 22:16:58 GMT -5
wow muirrin, jonna, pearl, jac, saille.. you guys so consciouss of what is going on in your life its really cool. re5pect
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