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Post by luz18 on Aug 23, 2005 22:34:36 GMT -5
There's something that's been bothering me for a while now, and it has to do with the earth switching its axis in the upcoming future. It's been predicted that the earth's rotation is going to change completely, and it will start rotating the other way, (in other words, the sun will start rising in the west, and setting in the east). The continents are also supposed to move; some land will sink underwater, some land will stay above water, and new land will be formed. I was in meditation yesterday, clearing my chakras and doing a general cleansing, and I asked for the presence of Archangels Michael, Gabriel, as well as Jesus and Mary. Then today, I went to my local library for the first time, and I found a book called, "Mary's Messages to the World", and in it, was messages from Mary (mother of Jesus) channeled by a woman called Annie Ortega Kirkwood. I think I was meant to read the book or something.... Well, in it are messages from Mary that she has been appearing all over the world to give us warnings of the upcoming events on earth, but the Churches have blocked these messages, and most of them were kept low key. In her warnings, Mary said that before the axis-change, there will be many volcanic eruptions (from now- dormant volcanoes and in new locations), the ice caps will melt, there will be terrible storms and floods, and tidal waves of immense sizes... All of these things will begin gradually, and then increase in frequency and location. She said that many lives will be lost, and that she clearly tells us the importance of praying and meditating atleast one hour a day. She called the Shift something like, "The survival of the fittest", in which people will have to be mentally, physically and spiritually fit in order to survive. I don't know about you guys, but this is not the first time I hear about the Earth Shift, and it really scares me. I pray and meditate as much as I can, but I'm still and Indigo who hasn't even developed her gifts yet. I don't even know what they are! They say that in 2012, it will not be the end of life as we know it, but the end of time. However, I cannot help but feel scared for those who haven't even begun to search for God inside themselves. I hear many things.... that the transition will be violent with many deaths, or that the transition will be smooth and quick... I don't know anymore. The earth is suffering because of us, and now She is reacting to the negative energy, pollution and evil; hence all the storms and deaths and natural disasters. (Including catastrophic earthquakes). I need to know what you all know about this, because I really don't know what to do, or what my part in it is. I will continue to pray, and Mary said that if we all send love to the earth and all the people on it, the disasters will not be as bad. What information do you all have on this? XoXo, Lots of love, LuZ
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Post by gemma on Aug 24, 2005 2:55:38 GMT -5
The calendar of the Mayan folk says that in 2012, at December 24 it will be the end of THIS world. There was a lot of worlds, and all of it ended by a nature-catastrophe. This world will be ended in fire.
There happened once that the sun changed its way. All the calendars needed to be changed. There are DOCUMENTS which prove it. There is a servant of a king who complains about all the catastrophes and says that "all the stars and the sun and the moon have another way now"
Yes, they are blocking these messages. Have you ever heard about Fatima, the small Portuguese town? There were three small children. The Holy Virgin gave them her messages and the one of them is still alive. She is a nun, her name is Lucia. After she gave the seventh (?) message to the pope, the Vatican was so scared that they didn't told anything about it. All the other messages were told to the world but this message not!
All of you heard about Atlantis, I suppose. I KNOW, I FEEL, that before this world comes to its end, Atlantis will rise above. They told everything to the Egyptians and one of them (a priest of Sais) told these knowledge to a Greek man, named Solon. Solon gave this knowledge to Plato, who wrote "Kritias" and "Timaios". In these two so-called dialogs he speaks of Atlantis, a "long-ago sunken kingdom" which was sent under the sea by the gods.
The priest of Sais told Solon that there was NOT only one deluge, there was a LOT OF them, and there were a lot of worlds, all ended by nature-catastrophes. This priest got this knowledge from the Atlantidan.
The world will be ended. Maybe we are supposed to be the survivors?
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Post by cherise on Aug 24, 2005 4:35:02 GMT -5
Hey Luz 18 and Gemma.
I think you're definitely right about the volcanos and earthquakes. It's supposed to form new crystallized matter as the centre of the earth gets bigger. What I heard that was very interesting...A young guy from Seattle had a dreamvision about the earth's grid. A man in his dream told him "Five hours from Seattle to get on the grid." If I remember correctly, triangles within circles all over the earth. The energy grids are where the earth plates will rise with centre core.
I really hope Atlantis does re-surface. All we can do is take the purest memories with us and transcend them to the next level of awareness. It is scary, but we're all anxious for a change. Global economic collapse is another possible reality. The war for oil effects us all.
But, there are people praying and there is joy in that every moment. It transcends. What will survive is love. Make every emotion memorable.
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Post by Uriah on Aug 24, 2005 11:20:08 GMT -5
I have heard about many earth changes which are occuring now and will be culminating around 2012. I believe a change is emminent there is nothing we can do to stop what is happening but there are ways to mimimize and relieve suffering and that is to pray, meditate, and become a lightworker. Share the light, live the light for others to see. I feel most of us here, if not all, are on that path.
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Post by thecrystalmaiden on Aug 24, 2005 14:27:59 GMT -5
Honestly, the Mayan calendar doesn't really specify what happens when December 2012 comes around, that's just where they're calendar stops and there happens to be an alignment on that same day. Some people think that's when the world ends, some think it's where the Mayans couldn't discern time any further, it's really a big mystery.
As for the Earth shift coming, I can feel it in her vibrations when we commune, she's much more "active" now than when I first became aware of her. I think though that although many lives will be lost during the disasters, that we as indigos really don't need to worry that much about our own survival because we all die when we're supposed to die and I don't think any indigos will die without completing their purpose.
That sending prayers and love out into the world will help the transition makes perfect sense. No energy is ever lost, even the energy of thought - if we wish for good things to happen, somewhere in the world good things will happen due to our positive thinking. It's amazing how everything is so directly intertwined. Luz, when I think of 2012 I get a feeling of excitement and anticipation rather than one of dread, so I really think that there is a lot of positive things coming along with the negative.
I will pray more though of that is what Mary says, there is no such thing as praying too much, lol. ^_^
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Post by shepardess on Aug 24, 2005 14:50:22 GMT -5
I have organized a few thoughts on this subject and will try and explain some of my intuitive takes on these prophesies. There is some general confusion around the idea of the planetary shift or pole shift. I think that those who talk about east becoming west and west becoming east are intending to sensationalize the actual act. There have been throughout geological history many pole shifts, where the magnetic poles of north and south have randomly switched. This, in effect would make west become east and so forth but the actual directional spin of the earth would stay the same. I have read many accounts of this earth shift that are not clear as to what they are actually talking about. I have also read some information based on scientific data that is monitoring the spin of the planet and most scientists agree that a pole shift is imminent. The thing is, a pole shift although it will cause some major disturbances is itself not as terrifing as people make it out to be. For instance the biggest problem that could happen while the shift is occuring (which could take up to 300 years) is that rather than haveing one intence magnetic feild which pushes away radiation from space we would have hundreds of mini unstable feilds allowing much more radiation onto the planet possibly causing many more cases of cancer. We would also have a problem using our sattalite powered appliances. As far as the major catastrophies go. I can't say, i suppose it is possible but intuitively I feel that the major stuggle presented by the 2012 calander date is more of an internal struggle than a fight of man against nature. That has been mans plight since the beginning and i feel that this struggle, this jump into the 4th or fifth dimension is more about the souls struggle with the human mind. It is prophesized by some that during the pole shift (while it is still rebalancing) the planet will actually exist in the forth dimension where everything you think will be become a reality. Therefore, if you are the sort of person that lives in fear your reality wil consist only of things that you fear. If you live on the spectrum of love and light than your reality will be made of those things. So perhaps the major catastropies will occur for those who fear . Perhaps the inordinate amount of people on the planet who hate and are scared will be able to create such disaters with thier group consciuosness. And then of course when the shift is completed the idea is that all those who refused to learn to live in love will have perished, but not by some evil god who cast this judgement on them but by thier own lack of love for themselves. It is my personal belief that the 5th demension will be quite like the one we exist in sans the hatred,jelosie,fear and ignorance. That is, I feel that it will be experienced in a similar manner as it is today. I feel it will still be a material world but our group consciousness will advance not nessesarily our bodies. I think th e overwhelming consciousness of God and soul and of love will be able to alter the experience however. These ideas may differ strongly from some of yours but I believe strongly in the individual reality and truths of everyone. whatever you think to be the truth is hands down the truth for you, and visa versa. I would like to add too that in my reading i find so much information that points to the ideas that there is something very fantasical or magical about to happen, I have been caught up in these ideas myself only to relize that these trumped up "magical" ideas actually remove me from the truth as I stop being aware of just how magical everything that I already know and expierence is. The simple act of living is magical, every creature on the earth is more fantastical than any a human mind could imagine. Take heart when reading these prophesies that predict larger than life phenomena and remember that everything that you experience is already larger than life.
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Post by djgirlcherise on Aug 25, 2005 20:42:14 GMT -5
Thanks for a great reminder! The WOW of NOW!
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Post by indigophoenix on Aug 26, 2005 13:56:13 GMT -5
There are countless numbers of prophesies, predictions, channeling's, etc on what is to happen during the next decade. Some say the world will end along with all life with it, some say we will transform into higher beings (spiritually or physically or both,) some say that we will destroy ourselves, and some say nothing extremely significant will happen.
I can't deny that there is a change occurring at a cosmic level that affects us as human beings as well as everything around us. But when and how these changes will occur cannot be certain. The future is never certain. There are paths that are more likely than others; there are some situations that may even seem imminent, but the fact of the matter is that until the future becomes the present we cannot be 100% sure of what is to come.
We may die as old men in women in our beds in a long time to come, or we may die young as the world is torn asunder. But hell, we could die tomorrow. So what is the use in worrying ourselves about something that may not happen for many years (or not even at all,) when your time left in this life could only be down to the remaining few hours? A wiser man than myself once said that life is nothing more than a series of moments. And the older I become, the more I understand how true this statement is.
I tell ya what; let us do the things that bring us personal fulfillment, let us gain wisdom from our everyday experiences, and let us learn to embrace every second of our lives as if there were none to follow. This is how we prepare for the future.
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Post by thecrystalmaiden on Aug 26, 2005 14:00:57 GMT -5
Indigo, thank you for the gentle reminder that no matter what the future holds, life is to be lived, not worried about! =)
I feel exactly the same way you do on this subject - the pole shift may occur in which case I doubt it'll be finished during our lifetimes, earthquakes and volcanoes may kill us all, but if that's the case then that's what was going to happen anyway and no use being distracted by it now. I used to worry about death a lot, especially after my mom died, I was very paranoid about breast cancer since three women in our family have already died from it. But you know what? If I'm to die of breast cancer, so be it, right now I'm young and healthy and very happy and I'm enjoying it before the sh*t hits the fan again. ^_^
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Post by Shaelyn on Aug 27, 2005 1:01:33 GMT -5
...I don't know about you guys...but I see a connection between the 12-strand DNA and the polar reversal...I believe the DNA upgrade will help us survive the shift.
...have ya'll heard of John Titor, the time traveler from 2036? He also said "something" does happen in 2012...but he refused to say what. Didn't want to spoil it I guess.
So far...his predictions have been coming true.
...at the same time...Indigo Phoenix is right. How many predictions were there circling around Y2K...and how many of them came true.
We're not here to worry...we're here to learn, and we're here to teach.
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Post by Uriah on Aug 28, 2005 19:17:18 GMT -5
As an edit of my earlier post, I said I believe a change will occur but things are always changing and as Indigo said, "A wiser man than myself once said that life is nothing more than a series of moments." Those moments, this moment is NOW. I have heard about so much and read hours of information but to get caught up in the future... is worthless. I say get caught up in the now. I haven't always but when I do I feel life is so much more worth living.
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Post by gemma on Aug 29, 2005 8:00:05 GMT -5
What is "12-strand DNA "?
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Post by Arya on Aug 29, 2005 8:44:55 GMT -5
Well Luz, I think you know how our DNA looks like, it has 2 strands or "columns" twisting together. I don't know how it looks like, but there is a theory -- not proven yet by scientists though -- that says that we do have a 12-strand DNA in the potential state, where only 2 on the 12 strands are activated. I don't remember well what are the supposed effects of the activation of the 12-strand DNA, but do a little research on Google, you'll find plenty of websites on that subject ^_^
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Post by Shaelyn on Sept 1, 2005 21:34:27 GMT -5
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Post by Shaelyn on Sept 23, 2005 13:26:58 GMT -5
a friend told me about this...thought I'd look it up. Siberia's melting...is it "global warming" or a part of the earth shift? www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1546797,00.html The concern my friend brought up...if this land that has been frozen for thousands of years is now thawed...what kinds of bacteria and viruses and things are going to be released in the atmosphere that was formerly held at bay under a cap of ice? ...if it gets up into the jet stream, it's going to sweep right down into the US...and across to other parts of the world... Survival of the fittest indeed. EDIT: It won't make the whole link a hyperlink...copy and paste it to your browser.
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Post by djgirlcherise on Sept 23, 2005 23:07:51 GMT -5
Cool!
I'm glad we're still talking about the ice caps. Talking about the melting ice caps, as if they are alive, is very valid!
It means to me that we are being prepared. Think about how many people you know who aren't thinking, or talking about them, in their daily lives. The more we learn about them NOW, the more we can teach and survive together. It's the spirit!
Shaelyn, please keeping posting on what you're learning about the world's ice caps, and I will do the same. Keep the good vibe, alive.
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Post by radaeron on Sept 24, 2005 16:19:32 GMT -5
This topic, the supposed end of the world, 2012 and the like was what actually started my search for all of this. (All of this being purpose, star seeds, children of various auras and light)
Having found this place though, and medititation and other new things I wish to try, I don't as such worry so much about the start of the new world. Since I believe in fate I feel we all die when we are meant to die. Regarding these recents events, my heartfelt sympathies have gone out to all of the people suffering in the world. So much so I can't actually watch news or listen to the radio if they bring up much about it. It's too overwhelming. But I feel this could be Mother Earth's way of cleansing herself. As mankind has done terrible, terrible thing to her. And I think she has done it before. Noah's Arc and the great flood. I believe whenever this new start happens (or end if you prefer) it will involve a lot of flooding and tidal waves. (Of course people can scientifically say they know this already.. but thats another track) If you look around in various other sources you will see there have been floods all around the globe in this great flood (Not specifically referring to Noah and the Bible, but other stories, example Nu Wah, from Asia who survived a great flood with his people by finding the tallest mountain, of course I may be wrong)
.. Hmm. I believe something is going to happen in our lifetimes. That is my only reason about it. Indigo and Crystal children appear in greater numbers now don't they? Perhaps this is one stage progressing to another as Mother prepares us.
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Post by ladyarchimeades on Sept 28, 2005 17:08:35 GMT -5
I have put in a little time on this subject, I don't know what's been said in the previous posts as I don't like to read them as it could alter my own reply. I go back after I post my reply to see what others have said but I don't read the replies until I've added my message. I could write for hours about this subject and many others since I've had that many more years to research these topics. What you are describing I feel can be found in (Revelation 16:17 - 21)..."The seveanth angel poured out his bowl into the air , and out of the emple came a lud voice from the throne, saying 'It is done'! Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. no earthquake like it has evever occured since man has been on earth"....it goes on to say that the great city will be split into three parts, every city on the earth will be devestated, every island will flee and huge hailstones wieghing 100 pound will rain down on the earth. Revelation is so misunderstood however that many in the church will not agree with the explenations of some of the great Bible Scholars out there like the Reverand Jack VanImpe who I feel is a modern day prophet. Also most people who have no understanding of the Bible or think they know the Bible say that these are just symbols for other events and that John was 'HULLUCINATING' when he wrote those words. Both the Mayan Calender and the Bible tak about the "End of the Age', in actuality there are dozens if not hundreds of things out there that speak about this...i.e. there are Hindu pophecies and Chinese prophecies that touch the subject, there are Native American Prophecies that touch this subject, even Elizabeth Claire Prophet, Edgar Cacy and Nostrudamus touch the subject. A common misunderstanding in many prophecies stems from the words "End of the Age" which in some bibles has been changed to "End of the World"! I feel it was changed so that the Church could control the people of that time. The ignorant and the foolish firmly believe that our world is going to blow up someday and were all going to die....that is what Revelations is all about. However, God made the world (Earth) to abide forever...no ifs, ands or buts!! As for praying to Mary or Jesus GODS WRATH is GODS WRATH and canot be altered, changed or made minut!! The 'Humans' upon this planet must suffer as well as the planet must suffer it cannot be avoided. I have exensive files on this subject and could write about it for days, weeks even months. We all believe what we all believe, and no one person can alter how we believe. I can only say to trust your instinct about, your intuition. We are moving into a time period where instinct will be very important especially as more and more people will be seeking out "GURUS" and "TEACHERS" when they should be turning inward and listening to their own inner GURU or TEACHER who knows what's best for the soul/person!?
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Post by jeremy on Sept 30, 2005 4:23:37 GMT -5
Thank you Lady Archimedes. I don't understand why catholics pray to Mary and the saints, because that is forbidden in the bible. Praying to Jesus doesn't fall under that particular law though becaue he isn't dead (yes, he is 2009 years old, and as alive as you and me, and the most misrepresented person in the history of the earth). I do not believe in a vindictive God. What more can I say about his wrath? If it falls upon us, we have only ourselves to blame, for we have had ample opportunity to change whatever aspect of ourselves that drives him to such actions. God is not arbitary. An arbitary God would be incapable of creating this planet or the life which inhabits it, no matter how much "power" he posessed. A God who is not arbitary would not kill one for the shortcomings of another. I have noticed that various things have been happening lately, and these do seem to be building up to something. The world is going in two directions at once, and it seems to me it will be torn in half.
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Post by luz18 on Oct 1, 2005 11:56:12 GMT -5
Rad~ You're right. The last time the Earth Shift occured, it was around Noah's time.... and everything was destroyed by the water. Lady~ Concerning what you said, I also read it in the book I was talking about (the one about Mary). She also said it was very important to look inwards to find God.. not to find him by following others, such as "teachers" or "gurus".... a lot of them are false. That is a very important point you made... It is also said that many false preachers, leaders will rise and everything will be chaotic as each leader will be saying, "Only my way can save you", etc. etc.
jeremy~ I also believe with all my heart that God is ony love, therefore any punishment/suffering we go through is because of the evil of the world, and our own mistakes. I don't believe he punishes anybody... everyone is good at doing that to each other already...
xoxo, Luz
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Post by Magdalene on Apr 27, 2012 18:05:55 GMT -5
There's something that's been bothering me for a while now, and it has to do with the earth switching its axis in the upcoming future. It's been predicted that the earth's rotation is going to change completely, and it will start rotating the other way, (in other words, the sun will start rising in the west, and setting in the east). The continents are also supposed to move; some land will sink underwater, some land will stay above water, and new land will be formed. I was in meditation yesterday, clearing my chakras and doing a general cleansing, and I asked for the presence of Archangels Michael, Gabriel, as well as Jesus and Mary. Then today, I went to my local library for the first time, and I found a book called, "Mary's Messages to the World", and in it, was messages from Mary (mother of Jesus) channeled by a woman called Annie Ortega Kirkwood. I think I was meant to read the book or something.... Well, in it are messages from Mary that she has been appearing all over the world to give us warnings of the upcoming events on earth, but the Churches have blocked these messages, and most of them were kept low key. In her warnings, Mary said that before the axis-change, there will be many volcanic eruptions (from now- dormant volcanoes and in new locations), the ice caps will melt, there will be terrible storms and floods, and tidal waves of immense sizes... All of these things will begin gradually, and then increase in frequency and location. She said that many lives will be lost, and that she clearly tells us the importance of praying and meditating atleast one hour a day. She called the Shift something like, "The survival of the fittest", in which people will have to be mentally, physically and spiritually fit in order to survive. I don't know about you guys, but this is not the first time I hear about the Earth Shift, and it really scares me. I pray and meditate as much as I can, but I'm still and Indigo who hasn't even developed her gifts yet. I don't even know what they are! They say that in 2012, it will not be the end of life as we know it, but the end of time. However, I cannot help but feel scared for those who haven't even begun to search for God inside themselves. I hear many things.... that the transition will be violent with many deaths, or that the transition will be smooth and quick... I don't know anymore. The earth is suffering because of us, and now She is reacting to the negative energy, pollution and evil; hence all the storms and deaths and natural disasters. (Including catastrophic earthquakes). I need to know what you all know about this, because I really don't know what to do, or what my part in it is. I will continue to pray, and Mary said that if we all send love to the earth and all the people on it, the disasters will not be as bad. What information do you all have on this? XoXo, Lots of love, LuZ
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