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Post by ladyarchimeades on Oct 14, 2005 20:42:30 GMT -5
It's for something Cherise is doing see one page one for the information. Cherise if you can explain a little bit more about this that would help and next time when you ask me to do something as in refering to a post please tell me the location, lol it took me 30 minutes to find this message!? I think it would help if there was ome kind of quick find search listing category as to when you are looking for a particular message would help!! Thanks Cherise.
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Post by evolutions_son on Oct 14, 2005 20:56:28 GMT -5
Okay I haven't been able to post for a little bit and it looks like I have a lot to respond to. So first let's respond to thecrystalmaiden... Okay where to start. Number one a soul can not be damaged. A soul is eternal and perfect. What can be damaged is the mind. Outside of the physical realm we are a 3 part being. We consist of soul, mind, and personality. In the physical realm we become a 4 part being which adds the physical body. Our soul connects us to everything or to God. Our mind stores all of our memories from all of our lifetimes and experiences. Our personality is what truely adds our unique flavor to the mix. Now as far as everything being already perfect, you are absolutely correct. This moment right now is perfect. So is this moment. And right now as someone is getting shot in Iraq this moment is perfect. And right now as some young child starves to death in Africa this moment is perfect. What's my point? Every moment is different then the next and every moment is perfect. The perfection of the moment doesn't keep us from living. We don't just sit and do nothing because nothing needs to be done because it is already perfect. If I watch tv or plan out a revolution tonight with my time it is perfect no matter which I choose. The environment we live in right now is perfect as well. And when I change the environment to a more condicive environment for conscious evolution it will be perfect as well. So I can turn that question right back around to you and say...Can't you see that all moments, regardless of what we do, are perfect? No need to answer unless you don't believe all moments are perfect then that would go against everything you already said. Okay okay hold up. Obviously it was bad because no one got it. What I said about the messiah's was a joke! Sometimes we all need a little laugh. Maybe I didn't articulate that it was a joke that well...sorry. No problem. We are all passionate people here so I understand. Plus it takes a lot more to get me going... --------------------------------------------- Okay next up is Arya... I agree with you and I like to take it further. We ourselves are holograms of the entire universe. However we all have different personalities and these personalities highlight all the different aspects of the entire universe. So, yes I am everything in the universe. However my personality highlights certain aspects more and your personality highlights a different group of aspects more. My top three aspects are Love, Evolution, and Competitiveness. And you could add Strength as a fourth. We all highlight all of the aspects of the universe, or God, in different ways and that is why we are all unique and all the same at the same time. Thanks for the concern. What I was refering to was being misunderstood when it comes to anything on this level. When I was a very young child I tried to talk about the many inspirations and epiphanies that I receive on the regular, but I was put down, ignored, and not understood in the least. For a really long time I thought no one would ever true know me because they couldn't understand where I was coming from. I didn't accept the normal programming that our society gives us so others would look at me as if I was crazy. Since I had no one to share these things with I didn't have any real good practice at articulating them. However in the past few years I have developed a friendship where I am understood for the most part. My friend finally broke free from his programming and can understand for the most part everything I tell him. This has given me a good amount of practice at articulating myself on this level and I am getting better everyday. It is still a work in progress, but that's all good. I will have to disagree with you that because we are human that we cannot communicate things fully. We must stop telling ourselves that being human is less then God. That is the old programming of being born in sin still holding on for dear life. We are made in his image. We are God. We do have the ability to communicate everything and anything perfectly. To do that we have to use a combination of skills that we don't normally all use or have developed. But that doesn't mean we can't. You are right. I am a messiah type. However it is a double-edged sword. You can't go around expressing that you are a messiah without a minority trying to worship you, another medium trying to control you, and the majority trying to kill you. Maybe I am being a little extreme, but I think you can gather what I mean. Messiah's are stereotyped these days and to advertise myself as one wouldn't benefit the change I would like to be. Plus what messiah walks around saying he/she is a messiah? Messiah's are who they are and people judge them to be a Messiah or not. To me the word "Messiah" is just a title or name we use to organize things in our little unreality. I am just sensitive to this issue. I have freakish parallel's with Jesus that just bogles my friend's mind. I don't know. I am who I am. As long as I live and to do the things I feel called or have a desire to do then that is all I need. If I started to think about being a Messiah instead of just thinking about being who I am then that would lead my ego to run my life. My ego lives in harmony with me and I like to keep it that way. That is perfect for you. You know what you desire to do and you are doing it or trying to. I also know what i meant when I said that at 5 yrs old. I can remember that feeling as if I just had it because I did. This feeling has been with me all my life. I also said, at the same age, that I wanted to be paralyzed and to have cancer and aids because I wanted to heal myself and show the world what we are capable of. Bottom line is I know who I am and if I can't articulate who I am or if someone can not understand who I am it doesn't change who I am. I am who I am. I don't know if my evolution is faster then everyone's, but it is faster then anyone I have ever met. I never implied that that makes me better. If I learn how to play a computer game faster then you does that make me better then you? I don't think so. If you learn foreign languages faster then I does that make you better then me? I don't think so. Just because I may evolve faster then the norm it doesn't make me any better then anyone else. To add to this to say someone is better is to imply a level of judging another and I don't judge people. At least i do my best not to. No I wasn't trying to justify myself, I was trying to explain myself. I am 100% comfortable with where I am at, where I am going, and who I am. I live the perfection of it everyday. I truly know who I am. Sometimes that isn't an easy pill to swallow, at least in my life. It is similar to Neo in the Matrix movies. He was the chosen one yet he couldn't swallow that idea, until he did. Something clicked and he just knew who he was and that wasn't necessary the chosen one, but yet it was. That is remarkably similar to me. Now I just know... ------------------------------------------------------------- now onto ladyarchimeades... I absolutely agree. That is why I am sensitive to the whole Messiah thing. If that is focused upon it is wasy to find yourself like a David Koresh instead of who you truly are...unless that is who you are...well anyway you get my point. I am just being me and everyone can judge me as they feel fit. However in doing so they lose sight of me. I totally agree with you. i took the time to get rid of the old man last year and into Feb of this year. The new man is here. The new self-realized man is awake. However this man is still learning how to articulate himself perfectly and this is why we are even having this discussion. ------------------------------------------ I hope this round of answers has helped cleared some of your thoughts up. If not bring about the next round of questioning and we will get at that. Until then, be well and blessed. I love you all...
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Post by djgirlcherise on Oct 14, 2005 22:19:52 GMT -5
Hello Beautifuls...
Check out the topic, our prime numbers. It's difficult to give a complete overview because I wouldn't give it any justice. However, a specific question might be easier.
Hi Lady A,
I apologize for the 30 minute dealee-yo. I thought I gave the title of the topic, My Friend. What I didn't realize until now, I forgot to mention which page. Just so you know, my younger sister was born April 1, 1977. A 2. Your friend is a 7.
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Post by ladyarchimeades on Oct 15, 2005 4:47:26 GMT -5
Being blunt, direct and to the point let's get too things, shall we!? Quote from (CM) - "This is... so wrong, on so many levels. Who are you to choose what will provide inspiration for a soul to grow? Earth is perfect as it is, how can you not see that? It's the hard times that make a soul evolve, not the easy times, where would be the lessons if there was not ignorance? And every single soul on Earth that has come here is here to evolve and pursue that evolution, whether consciously or subconsciously, failure is impossible. Everyone is where they need to be, everyone on Earth is an advanced soul believe it or not, you don't honestly believe a less experienced soul would risk coming to all this darkness? There's a reason why life is so hard even for ppl like us who have been here many times, life on Earth can damage a soul irrepairably if they're not careful." Quote from (E_S) - "Okay where to start. Number one a soul can not be damaged. A soul is eternal and perfect. What can be damaged is the mind. Outside of the physical realm we are a 3 part being. We consist of soul, mind, and personality. In the physical realm we become a 4 part being which adds the physical body. Our soul connects us to everything or to God. Our mind stores all of our memories from all of our lifetimes and experiences. Our personality is what truely adds our unique flavor to the mix." (From what I understand and have learned you both could be wrong to a degree - Just like physical injuries damage and scar the body, mental and emotional trauma injures the soul, however the trauma is repaired or healed after the body has died, this is part of the process a soul goes through during it's transition from death, to the ectoplasmic luminary spiritual form on the higher dimensional vibratory planes of the fourth and fifth dimensions and Beyond. Before the soul prepares for rebirth or reincarnation it is healed from the experiences it endures upon the prime material plane or physical plane or Earth Plane if you prefer?) (CM) - (I disagree as to every soul here being an "advanced soul", there are various soul levels (baby souls), (young souls), (advanced souls) and (Masters) or (Ascended Ones) I think I might have left out a few since I don't have the book anymore!? Failure in soul evolution is possible whether it be conscious or unconscious, the ultimate lesson or purpose of reincarnation. If soul evolution had no failure and every soul was an advanced soul, the Earth Plane would be a pretty desolate place as everyone would be doing it (meaning thier life) without failure, leaving the Earth Plane empty as everyone got it right and the growth or learning process has ended, impossible don't you think?) (And (E_S) a soul may be Eternal but it can be ultimately destroyed when cast into the "Lake of Fire" found in Revelation!? It may be perfect and eternal but it can be destroyed and trauma can be inflicted upon it!? If my book were complete I'd send you a copy and you can see all the information I have accumulated on these subjects, I'm not saying I am ultimately right as I could be wrong, we all could be wrong or we all could be right or somewhere inbetween. This is just what I have learned from all my hours of research and study. I will not not say I am ultimately right and everyones wrong as that would be completely ludicrous and hypocritical!! (E_S) I also disagree with us being a three part being outside the physical realm, the personalitiy is part of the mind, the mind part of the soul. We are actually a two part being a SOUL or the (Breath of Life) and a SPIRIT or (Spark of Life) the soul and the spirit are two different things...the soul or (Breath) is what part of what gives life or (Breath) to the body, it is the mind, personality it is part of the aura, it is many things, the spirit or (Spark) is part of that electrical impulse which gives the heart its beat, the spirit is many things as well. I could write for hours explaining my theories on this and what I have learned but my message would be pages and pages long, that's why I wrote a book instead. When I get my mailing list set up and the books are all printed I can send you guys a copy or anyone who's interested?) Quote from E_S - "I absolutely agree. That is why I am sensitive to the whole Messiah thing. If that is focused upon it is wasy to find yourself like a David Koresh instead of who you truly are...unless that is who you are...well anyway you get my point. I am just being me and everyone can judge me as they feel fit. However in doing so they lose sight of me." (I don't think you were thinking that I was implying you as one of those people? My point is when we come off like these types of people that's when we fall into a trap and in turn snare other people. Which is a really bad thing for our selves and others who succomb to our manipulation or machinations!? Judge you? ?...NOPE, "Judge not lest you be judged" it says in the Bible, besides when we point our finger at someone we'd better take a closer look as we have three fingers pointing right back at ourselves!? I don't "Judge" anyone!! I can disagree with them, I can dislike them, I can even hate them (which is wrong) but I won't Judge them!!! Lose sight of you, not what's that all about, everyone who I correspond with is only a thought away in my mind and why would you be worried about people losing sight of you, what does that mean please explain?) I am really enjoying this thread, I can say that atleast none of you back down when your beliefs are challenged, it is good to stand up for your beliefs! It shows that you are an individual. In the past at other sites I have found people backing down when thier beliefs were challanged or "going with the flow" or majority, individuality is what makes us all unique and special, but we lose part of that when we give away our power and/or the right to make our own choices for our selves!!^___^ Cherise can you share what those numbers are all about or e-mail me the information I am curious about those numbers!?
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Post by evolutions_son on Oct 15, 2005 9:35:19 GMT -5
No problem. I meant this. If you judge something or someone you start to lose sight of what or who they are. What everything is, is beyond the world of concepts.
I would be interested in reading your book. I agree with some of what you said and disagree with others. There is no lake of fire, that is actually symbollism for Christian Kaballism. The bible...oh how that could be a thread all to itself. As far as our souls go I stand by the fact that a soul can not be hurt. Yes those three aspects I mentioned ultimately are just Soul...ultimately everything is just Soul...just God...just that Universal Energy. And on that level it is impossible to be hurt. Our minds are the only thing that can be hurt and that is only an illusion. I too I have done a lot of research and am writing a few books actually. You seem to be a lot further along then I am though in getting to the final product.
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Post by djgirlcherise on Oct 15, 2005 13:34:29 GMT -5
Hi E-Son,
I'm enjoying you being here soooo much! I like a lot of what you are saying, however I'm wishing to hear some examples of enlightenment that you have brought to life. Please describe a recent epiphany that you were able to carry over and make tangible for your own experience on this dimension. With sincere thanks, Cherise
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Post by Shaelyn on Oct 15, 2005 20:26:07 GMT -5
as requested, my birthdate:
4/14/1983
...my only comment about the rest of the goings-on...is that everything is as it should be.
I'm kind of stuck in my own rut as well...but at the same time, I'm meant to be in this rut. I'm slowly pulling myself out, and it's been teaching me quite a bit.
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Post by ladyarchimeades on Oct 16, 2005 1:08:49 GMT -5
(E_S) - "No problem. I meant this. If you judge something or someone you start to lose sight of what or who they are." (Okay I see what you're saying and no, I wouldn't or was doing that to you. But I understand what you're saying and you have a valied point.) What everything is, is beyond the world of concepts." (I was thinking something along those same lines??)
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Post by evolutions_son on Oct 17, 2005 8:58:29 GMT -5
Hi E-Son, I'm enjoying you being here soooo much! I like a lot of what you are saying, however I'm wishing to hear some examples of enlightenment that you have brought to life. Please describe a recent epiphany that you were able to carry over and make tangible for your own experience on this dimension. With sincere thanks, Cherise I will answer this later today or tomorrow. I was going to now, but something extremely weird has come over me and I feel extremely weak. I haven't experienced anything like this in a long time so I need to figure out what this is exactly and then love it. I can barely focus or even keep my eyes open. As far as your question goes, are you looking for a particular thing? I mean what is tangible for one may not be for another. It just seems like a general question is what I am saying. If you wish to make it more specific then go ahead. I will answer it either which way as soon as I feel better.
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Post by djgirlcherise on Oct 17, 2005 14:41:47 GMT -5
Hi E-Son,
I don't know if you did that on purpose, but you just gave me an example of how you make your inner experiences tangible...
You said, "I haven't experienced anything like this in a long time so I need to figure out what this is exactly and then love it."
I don't think I've ever heard any one say this out loud before, ever. That is an ideal example of how an individual can carry awareness into the material vibration, and is the great example I was wishing to receive from you.
In the face of adversity, in whatever form it takes, you invoke the power of your love, even in moments of pain or fear. It's a completely personal and subjective moment. However, the cosmic moment of truth is symbolized by your response. If your response really carries the intent of love, than these higher vibrations will resonate, and anybody listening will hear your song. It is the challenge of our lifetimes.
Thank-you for sharing, E-Son. I wish for your optimum health so we can spend some more time together here. With sincerity, Cherise
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Post by evolutions_son on Oct 18, 2005 18:56:02 GMT -5
Hi E-Son, I don't know if you did that on purpose, but you just gave me an example of how you make your inner experiences tangible... You said, "I haven't experienced anything like this in a long time so I need to figure out what this is exactly and then love it." I don't think I've ever heard any one say this out loud before, ever. That is an ideal example of how an individual can carry awareness into the material vibration, and is the great example I was wishing to receive from you. In the face of adversity, in whatever form it takes, you invoke the power of your love, even in moments of pain or fear. It's a completely personal and subjective moment. However, the cosmic moment of truth is symbolized by your response. If your response really carries the intent of love, than these higher vibrations will resonate, and anybody listening will hear your song. It is the challenge of our lifetimes. Thank-you for sharing, E-Son. I wish for your optimum health so we can spend some more time together here. With sincerity, Cherise Hi Cherise... No I didn't intend to answer your questions with that statement, but I am glad I did! I was actually thinking really hard on it and really wanted to find something that all could feel as truth, but while I was doing all that thinking it just came right out my mouth and I didn't even realize it! At that moment I forgot everything is in the simple things. I blame it on being sick! lol...but seriously thank you for even asking that question and then seeing my subconscious answer.
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Post by djgirlcherise on Oct 18, 2005 22:26:19 GMT -5
Hi E-Son,
I read a great definition to summarize these moments.
Feelings: In the NOW! Emotions: Anything but the now.
It seems that you expressed your feelings, and not your emotions. I felt you there, in your response, so precisely. It was like, I was there with you when it happened. So really, the thanks are to you.
1. Your honesty is a great inspiration. 2. Your wisdom is appreciated. 3. I love to share the simplicities of life.
Sincerely, "Your Friend."
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Post by jeremy on Oct 31, 2005 23:25:45 GMT -5
Souls can be damaged, and they can heal, they are like any other layer of our being in this respect (voice of experience speaking, you would do well to pay attention). Even a person's identity can be damaged, but that doesn't so much heal as the person finds a new way to identify themselves. E-Son, the bible could indeed be a thread of its own here, but most people haven't read it so I fear it would become full of peoples' assumptions and what they've heard from others.
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Post by waterjag on Nov 5, 2005 7:30:53 GMT -5
ladyarchimeades I would be very interested to hear about your three year adventures. Perhaps you could post about them on a different thread.
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